1. zenith

    I wanted to comment on yesterday’s blog about the pharmacist, but for some reason I could not read the socnd part of his letter to you, nor the end of the blog entry. So, I will post today.
    Although you and I have disagreed in the past regarding methadone (I am a methadone patient and I think Sub is great–but also feel methadone is great and has worked wonderfully for me), this is not about that. You stated that you usually attend AA and were not aware of NA’s stance about medication assisted treatment. I wanted to let you know, if you were not aware, of their publications regarding this:
    (the above pamphlet was written before the advent of Suboxone but is held by current NA standards to be pertinent to Suboxone patients as well as MMT patients)
    and more recently:
    and here is a link to a recent thread on an NA support forum regarding this topic:
    Personally, I agree with the remarks you made on your blog entry. NA, of course, has the right to feel any way they choose to about sub or MMT–that is their business. However, I thought you might want to know what their official stance was on medication assisted treatment prior to suggeting people go to their meetings while on Sub. As far as I know, AA has no such policy, although there are some members in certain groups who disapprove personally.

  2. Stace

    hmm, for some reason I can’t get past this part of your blog
    “Fairly civilized.. but keep reading:”
    end of page… I want to keep reading, just can’t!!!
    I find it ironic – your post from the pharmicist. Only bc I just recently commented on how I feel others perceive me ie: the ppl at my pharmacy etc..
    I doubt it seriously they do think those things about me, however since our chat about that, more and more each day I wonder why I feel that way! Honestly I don’t give a mouse poop about anyone’s comments on suboxone they can eat that poop… and I think if they haven’t been in our shoes who the hell are they to judge? How do they know all this wordly knowledge – I mean whose to say if someone in NA/AA tried Suboxone, there lives would change for the bestest way possible and life would be worth living again.. and I feel really bad for your patient in NA that’s ashame that grown adults that are in the same sitituation can be that disrespectful and hurtful (by hurtful I’m not just meaning by being a big meany nope I mean they’re actually HURTING THAT PERSON BY TELLING HER THAT AND SHE GETS OFF THE SUB AND RELASPES!!! Such a scary thought. I sure hope she’s doing better now.
    Ok again I’m everywhere I can’t remember what I wanted to post about orginally so I’ll end it here 🙂
    Have a great day

  3. One thing I try my best to keep in my head at all times is that I represent a small portion of people who actually feel comfortable admitting that they are a medication assisted treatment (MAT) patient. How I talk and what I say can CHANGE the way people think about the treatment.
    For instance, at the hospital where I work I let people get to know me before I explain why I have a “Doctors” appointment once a month I have to leave work for….and when I do the response is always “YOU were a drug addict?”. …and I know when this happens I change not only the way people view MAT, but also the way they view addiction. I am not, and never was, a homeless “junky” who begged, borrowed and stole to feed my habit. (Well, I might have borrowed a whole lot! lol)
    You have to remember that every time you go to the pharmacy, Stace….it will make you feel better about the whole situation, I promise. Those people do not know you, or your story and they couldn’t possibly know you well enough to judge you.
    Doc, I love the comments at the end….there are so many folks I would love to say “why are you judging my recovery and since you are judging my recovery how can you possibly be happy in yours?”
    In what other illness would grading the recovery of someone elses sickness, make you less sick yourself? In what other illness would a complete absence of symptoms (the majority of time) in a patient be considered “less” of a remission/recovery then someone who constantly having to fight those symptoms (or “live with” them) like so many folks in traditional treatment have to?

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