1. JohnB007

    No wonder there is a Big Pharma conspiracy re; every damn thing to do with treatment of, well, every damn thing. I can see the need for the initial cap, but after that, it seems odd, and at conflict with other regulations, as Subdoc points out. Is there a cap for pt numbers if methadone is used? Pardon my ignorance, “I aint from round these here parts”. I’m seeing my Suboxone Dr in a fortnight to discuss my desire to end my need for Sub. I can handle the chronic pain now (I think), so have to get my head around going lower than 7mg / day. Tried before, very slow taper, and it didn’t work. Could not handle the depression and pain. I’ll go over the forum (again) for those who have succeeded. Anyone reading this who has tried and succeeded (or not for that matter) I pray leave a submission on that part. As Subdoc says, not enough doctors to help, those who do are capped at some level, and this site has helped more than the authorities seem to deem fit. Sub Drs here have to go through training as well – it is well paid, and the cap is one based on clinical time available, as most are GP’s (Primary Physicians – whatever the USA equivalance is) or in some other area as well. Despite the extra income it generates, there are bugger all Sub Drs here as well.

  2. fhahaicehawk

    I am a VERY FORTUNATE patient of Dr. Junig and Suboxone has saved my life from spiraling out of control. From a knee surgery in 2003 to September 2009 I was on painkillers. My orthopedic surgeon prescribed 4 to 6 750 mg Vicodins a day for the first 3 months and I and I mean “I” stretched it out to 6 years!
    I fell in love with Vicodin… it made me feel like I was 27 again even though I am i my early fifties. I was NEVER an abuser of drugs and I fell into a trap I NEVER saw coming. I took 2 750 mgs in the morning with my coffee and egg McMuffin and I felt GREAT! It did not matter if I was hung over from drinking or if I felt a little ill upon waking up… I KNEW that I was only 2 pills away from feeling super!!!
    My life took a dramatic turn in 2009. I am a professional salesman and the father of 5 great children. My wife has been absolutely supportive in my quest to overcome my addiction. In September of 2009, Doctors began cutting me off and I would get EXTREMELY ILL. I began faking known injuries from playing sports all of my life at Urgent Care Centers just to obtain 30 pills that would only last me 4 days. I even began buying Vicodin from family and friends who were all too willing to make $6 to $10 a pill.
    I told my wife that my back was killing me and that was why I had to take painkillers… the truth was I was ADDICTED! I went to my primary doctor and broke down in his office and told him I did Not want to die… I was already consuming over 8 pills a day and that was just to feel NORMAL! I no longer felt great or high from the drug… I was a prisoner in my own body! Dr. K sent me to a known Suboxe Doctor across town.
    Upon arriving at the Local Subox Doctor, they told me to take a seat in the lobby… I suffered for another hour and 10 minutes before they put me into a room. About 20 minutes after that the Doctor came in and gave me the 50 questions required prior to breaking a 8mg Suboxone pill in half and told me to put under my tounge for half an hour… I started to imediately feel BETTER! Dr. Z said he would put me on two 8 Mgs per day for 30 days and to see him in the office in 30 days.
    24 days later I ran out of Suboxone and called Dr. Z… the office lady said I would have to come in and wait to see him. I waited an hour an 40 minutes (1 hr 40 Minutes)!!!! Dr. Z (who is a primary care physician) scolded me for running out early… he said he would NOT approve another prescription unless I followed his program.
    To make a Very LONG story shorter, Dr. Z wanted to RUSH me off of Suboxone… he went from 2 a day to 1 a day to 1/2 a day when I ran out 2 weeks early right at Christmas 2009. I was so sick and had flu like symptoms for two weeks prior to finding Dr. Junig. I had thought about finding a Vicodin or Oxicodone dealer and just return to my old life. However, everytime I looked at my young children I wanted to find the correct way out. Dr. Z treated my like I was a run down drug addict. If fact, I was the father of 5 and held a professional job that I performed at a very high level.
    I could NOT afford to wait in his lobby for 2 hours everytime I needed a prescription refilled. The average time it took to obtain a Suboxone pill from Dr. Z was about 4 hours including a stop at the local CVS to pick up my prescription. This simply did NOT work for me.
    With Dr. Junig my average time it takes is under 90 minutes. I never have to wait in his lobby for more than 10 Minutes… and I can fill my script at the local WalGreens just down from his office. He treats you like a real human being! Dr. J truely understands his patients and their battle they face each day. MY MESSAGE TO THE MEDICAL LAWMAKERS: ” I am a Father… I am a Husband… I am a Professional… I go to Church on Sundays… I Love my country… however, I am addicted to painkillers and without the help of Dr. Junig and the medication known as Suboxone I would Not be writing this comment!” Moreover, I know if Dr. Junig’s door was Not open in January 2010 I would most likely be Divorced, out of work, ingesting as many painkillers as I can get my hands on, and OR taking up a Six Foot Plot in our local cemetary.
    SUBOXONE has removed my desire for painkillers… I am employed today, and I play baseball with my son and daughters. I am one of the LUCKY 100 patients Dr. Junig is allowed to treat.
    One final thought/comment: I get sick to my stomach when I hear that Dr. Junig is FORCED by our MEDICAL LAWMAKERS to only treat a selected few (100 Patients)while others are turned away. Too many Dads & Moms are dying because they got hooked on a painkiller after a simple shoulder/knee surgery… Opiate addiction is NOT going away and I see it everywhere. We simply need to raise awareness and educate those decision makers of the grave consequences of NOT helping our fellow neighbor who has a quiet (Shameful) addiction that he or she keeps a secret until it’s TOO LATE!

    • Thanks for your nice comments. I’ll only add that when Suboxone is used appropriately– i.e. people stay on it long enough to extinguish the conditioning caused by opioids– a practice of 100 people is easy to manage. I understand the problem with a practice that churns out hundreds of patients, each receiving little time to recover, but I wonder if the cap actually pushes some practitioners to discharge patients against their will– as the comments above suggest.
      Thanks again,

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